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What does the phrase "average looking woman" mean to you? I often get the feeling that when I hear men use this phrase it's means something different from when I hear women use it. So I'd like to get some opinions on it.
The median age, height, and weight are 39 years old, 5'4, and lbs. At least those attributes aren't all you got going for you, like your personality and accomplishments and such. Take everyone down to ASL, we're all pretty fucking bland. I think how many people perceive "overweight" has to do with fat distribution, and also how much of that weight is muscle. Up to is considered healthy for a 5'4" woman going off BMI, depending on her body structure she might look a little chubby but technically it's not overweight.
The BMI is It depends on the individual person. But yeah, it's overweight. I would wager that Reddit would definitely consider a woman with a BMI of Here's another woman 5'4 lbs. And here's a woman whose BMI is closer to So a BMI of But most women aren't athletes. In fact most people don't even work out. Especially if you're a sendentary woman.
I moved from Utah to Iowa and suddenly felt a lot more attractive. Utah has a lot of tiny young supermoms who go to the gym three times a week, and Iowa is farm country. Social comparison makes a difference. Just less intensely focused on perfection. I had this conversation with an ex. He had bought into the whole "rating system", and his thoughts were so damn skewed.
Basically, he counted as attractive ended up being accounted for, and no one else. I told him to take all women into account, which he struggled to do. I realized it's hard to find a place where you can really gauge "average". Even at the supermarket, Whole Food you will find women who had a better access to thing like good diet leading to healthier skin, etc and dental care than Walmart. Then it dawned on me.
Ours was on the county line, between a wealthy and poor county. It was the perfect mix because most people would, eventually, have to go there. We needed to be there one long afternoon, and I told him to rate every single woman who came through the lines. It quickly made him uncomfortable. Before the end, women he initially scored as 1s were now 3s or 4s, because he had found a real 1.
Then the women he called 6s were suddenly 8s or 9s. Finally he said the whole thing made him feel weird, and he dropped it entirely. I've noticed this too.
Basically only young, attractive women receive ratings. An obese woman or elderly woman is not rated at all or maybe given a 1. Some guys don't rate overweight women either, so now two thirds of the female population is essentially not considered. How the hell is a 5 "average" then? Technically the colloquial average is a 6 or 7. It's not really an average, but a mean in this case. I would think it would be lower. Most people both men and women are overweight or obese.
It seems like being overweight or obese prevents a person from receiving a rating above a 5. I could be wrong though. As others have pointed out. Some people are not even rated. If you are rating someone they are already somewhat attractive. When thinking of their own appearance in terms of if above average or not, I wonder if men compare themselves to all men including those who are super ugly.
Or if they just compare themselves to other tall, fit, young guys? I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here about what people mean by "average". They don't mean a mathematical average of the scores of the whole population, but more like "neutral". That is, a 5 would be someone who you're not turned off by, but aren't actively attracted to either. It'd probably me more accurate to frame the scale as going from -5 to 5 in that sense.
As a man who's debated this many times a 6 is roughly average Me and a friend decided a new rating system to compensate for this. For us an average not attractive or unattractive is a 4. As in you would sleep with them based on personality alone, and if other people found out you wouldn't get the ribbing you would get if you typically slept with someone unattractive. I'm overweight and don't wear makeup.
Men dont register me in their mental tally of women. A 5 isn't average. As you mentioned, many people are excluded from the scale. Making it basically a system. When it comes to that kind of scale, I can't place myself anywhere on it, I might be attractive, but I'm not a woman, so I can't tell for sure.
And when it comes to women, I can't base it off looks alone, and it fluctuates. I am much more attracted to a girl that I get along with, and is smart, nice, fun to be around, etc. One day I could be talking to a girl and realize that I'm developing a crush even though maybe 2 days earlier I had never considered it. You don't have to be a woman to know how you fit on the scale.
Just as I don't have to be a man to know where I am on the scale./p>
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